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Tuesday, March 30, 2010

Social Responsibility

Recently I received an email from a friend. This friend is a teacher of teachers, that is, this person travels from district to district and teaches other teachers how to teach students. As a high level educator my friend has a finger on the pulse of the public education system as much as anyone could. So you have to understand my concern when I received a link from this friend with a message attached begging that I get this information out to the public.

Our founders told us that we needed two separate systems of education, “one to teach us to make a living and another to teach us how to live.” The intent was for our families, churches, and social groups would teach us the latter and they would create a public education system for the former. This separation between moral and intellectual training was considered vital to social cohesion. Even now most public administrators want to keep religion out of school.

All of this being the case, how is that our public educators are taking it upon themselves to decide, define and provide the morality to our children? It never has been, nor is it now the job of the crappy public school system to teach morality or “social responsibility” to our kids. Frankly, I don’t see that our school system holds the moral equity to pass on their flawed ideology to my children.

Having looked over the link that my friend sent (http://www.ascd.org/publications/educational_leadership/may09/vol66/num08/toc.aspx) I must say that I was rattled, to say the least. It seems innocent enough when you read “Shouldn't we also expose economics students to the humane, religious, and ethical ways of thinking about economics? The standards and texts ignore poverty as a moral issue, are silent about economic and social justice, fail to even mention charitable giving, say nothing about work as a calling, and avoid any mention of the effects of economic growth on the environment (Nord & Haynes, 1998)”, but read it again.

If you are a liberal then please consider the same written like this.. “Shouldn’t we also expose economics students to the vast rewards of the capitalist system while teaching them to live as children of Jesus Christ? The standards and texts ignore poverty as a personal responsibility, are silent about the basic truth that there is no such thing as economic or social justice, fail to mention that poverty comes from either laziness or a series of bad decisions and that churches and families are the sources of charity, say nothing about work as a decision, and avoid any mention of the effects of economic growth on improving the environment.”

How does that make you feel? You would consider it propaganda right? Well it is, and it’s all true, but it has no more place in our education system then your socialist propaganda does. It is only because you think you have some kind of moral and ethical high ground. The fact is that the public education system is a shining example of how government can screw up anything. You teachers feel smart because you went to college and received a document that says that you have been taught enough to teach children. This does not make you smart, in fact, chances are, you chose to teach because you had no marketable skills, talents or knowledge to help you succeed in “the real world”. So you went back to school, the only place you had ever been. You now have a sense of intellectual superiority (because your peers are children) and a job for which you are required to show no merit to succeed.

Yes, I realize that there are some teachers out there who are actually doing it for the right reasons but then, you’re not the one’s pushing this socialist agenda. You see, public education is a socialist environment. Teachers are paid to show up! If they keep showing up, year after year, they keep getting raises regardless of their “productivity” (or lack thereof). They receive benefits of the highest order, they get tons of holidays and they qualify for tenure (meaning they cannot be fired without an act of congress). I know, I know.. Why EARN a living wage when you can just vote for it.

It’s easy to see why these people support socialism, after all, the money for schools is handed to them by the almighty government and nobody has to actually sell anything. The public is forced to buy their product by law while truancy officers force customers through their doors. What they do not understand is that the same system cannot work if all receive and there is no one to give. But then, most teachers only know what they were taught and their teachers were never taught to teach them that stuff.

Again, I encourage you to look over the site linked above and if you see nothing wrong with it then please.. Smear some environmentally friendly, non petroleum, Government Issue, union supported, high viscosity lubricant around the pointed top of your long haired, pot stinking, Stalin loving melon and cram it up your free market hating, MSNBC watching, Obama worshiping rectum.


Silence DoGood said...

Thomas Jefferson, apparently a horrible socialist according to you had the audacity to propose a bill on public education.

He recommended that primary education and EVEN COLLEGE be sponsored at PUBLIC EXPENSE by TAXATION for all people including women and those less wealthy. Surely if I had not told you this was Jefferson you would now be mumbling about new age, socialist, leftist nonsense.

Classical knowlege, he argued included ETHICS.

So yes the founding fathers literally contradict the right wing mythology you made up here.

Jefferson from direct quotes not imaginary ones supported:
- public tax payer funded
- including college
- including women and the poor
- including ETHICS

I cannot belive you make this stuff up as you go and most readers here nod in agreement without the distraction of thought process.

flounder said...

That is a very impressive account of history, Readers Digest style. And now, as the late Paul Harvey said, "the rest of the story".

Jefferson was a proponent of taxpayer funded "private education". He, along with Benjamin Rush, believed that a competetive education system would create an educated society which would help to advance the republic and prevent the citizenry from becoming dependant on the state. They also proposed that the Bible become the first sanctioned school book and that classes be held in church. This was a function of resources rather than religion, after all, churches were the primary source of social interaction at the time.

The concern for Jefferson was rooted in "moral implications". He pushed the premise of "teaching ethics" without forcing morality.

I'm sure that you know the difference but for everyone else the difference is this.. Morality is the set of self imposed standards by which you live and ethics are the standards by which you are judged by others.

The information posted on my blog refers to social responsibility. This is, by definition; forced morality. They are clearly working to force charity through taxation, social justice through legislation and economical justice through the redistribution of wealth. None of these ideas are about ethics but about forcing others to act based on the morals of those who educate.

What would you think if the quote that I rewrote was sent to the teachers of your children?

Silence DoGood said...

I am assuming the requote you refer to was "“Shouldn’t we also expose economics students to the vast rewards of the capitalist system while teaching them to live as children of Jesus Christ?"

I absolutely agree with you. I would have been in the school office immediately to protest this type of brainwashing.

But you may be happy to know that I had some teachers pushing some new thought that I protested against too. it was some liberal rethinking of science. Even though I agreed with it myself, I raised the issue with teachers that it was still one sided.

I hate indoctrination whether it is left wing social equality or right wing science revisionist anti-evolution.

I agree with you there and you make a very good point.

BTW - how widely is this blog viewed? I only see you and then some unfortunate English-simulation commenters.

flounder said...

I am glad that you understand my point, I realize that it is often hard to recognize indoctrination when it agrees with our own ideology. I am guilty of that my self, but I am trying to look for it either way.

In the last thirty days I have had 170 visits from 5 countries including; USA, Canada, Russia, Pakistan and Norway. Within the USA I have had visits from 14 states in the same time. The popularity of the site comes and goes. All time I have had nearly 1100 visitors from 41 states within the US and 1549 visitors from 28 countries spanning 16 sub-continents and 6 continents. Here is a list of nations by popularity..
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The Most popular posts are as follows:
1. Current post
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I know it was not necessary to show this data but I figured you would find it interesting.

Do SilenceGood said...

Wow - cool - wish more people would contribute.

Remember some of those are bots trolling and probably not people, but still very nice.

Silence DoGood said...

Addendum: for those educated in Texas, Thomas Jefferson was an important person early in this country. I just read how the Texas ultraconservatives are "revising" the history books again and promoting or banning some historical figures and ideas.

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